secretary of paul lozano said she was not informed -- secretariat napolitano said she was not informed. i do not think you have the first team on board in detroit at that time. that is the second thing i want to clear up. >> with regards to that, the people made the determination as to whether or not to member bridget to mirandize abdulmuttulab -- as to whether to mirandaze abdulmuttulab. one was an iran-iraq expert. one was an explosives expert. good people trained, and as we looked at this question about how we codify this, how we arrange this, the one thing i think we should all try to agree on is we do not handcuff the people trained at these kinds of things, these fbi agents, so when they are there and trying to make these on the scene determinations, they do not have to worry about what is washington going to sink. >> that gets back to my original. the team was not originally involved. thirdly, it was christmas day, and it is nothing wrong with people wanting to be off on christmas day. if you looked at the interview on 60 minutes, the fbi agent -- his identification and understa